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another sign that president assad's hold over geographic syria is tipping. >> warner: isn't assad believed to be restocking weapons and aircraft through the air? >> sure. and they're being resupplied. they have large stocks of weapons. they're being helped out by the iranians with the transformation of the that dia -- >> warner: that being the thugs --. >> alawite forces. the russians also are backing them in one way shape or form. who hasn't backed them is the united states and the west in terms of rebel forces and syrians, especially opposition, are quite angry about that. >> warner: if the internet service stays down, how much does that hamper the rebels' ability to operate? >> it dawes because they're unable to coordinate. you beal surprised what happens over mobile phones and through the internet and using smart phones. >> and texting. >> but they still have two-way radios and sat phones. but its it harder for them, not impossible. but it's a sign that -- the assad regime hasn't done this until now and it's a sign we're entering a new phase. >> warner: do you think the assad forces ne
another sign that president assad's hold over geographic syria is tipping. >> warner: isn't assad believed to be restocking weapons and aircraft through the air? >> sure. and they're being resupplied. they have large stocks of weapons. they're being helped out by the iranians with the transformation of the that dia -- >> warner: that being the thugs --. >> alawite forces. the russians also are backing them in one way shape or form. who hasn't backed them is the united...
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assad's fall is looking imminent. syrian officials accuse the west of looking for a pretext to intervene. no international flights have been allowed to land at damascus airport for a week. >>shepard: what is the pentagon doing? are they preparing for the possible of intervention? >>reporter: they are actively planning and expect substantial fighting. there is increasing evidence that some of the shoulder-fired missiles that the c.i.a. was trying to track down in libya, and f-16's may have migrated to syria bringing down a helicopter and fighter jet last week. reports that save gas has been loaded on to canisters, the united states set up a task force at a base north of jordan, in amman, that included 150 special forces working with the military of jordan to secure assad's chemical weapons. >> the world is watching. the president of the united states has made very clear there will be consequences if the assad regime makes a tell mistake by using the chemical weapons on their own people. >>reporter: the pentagon is awar
assad's fall is looking imminent. syrian officials accuse the west of looking for a pretext to intervene. no international flights have been allowed to land at damascus airport for a week. >>shepard: what is the pentagon doing? are they preparing for the possible of intervention? >>reporter: they are actively planning and expect substantial fighting. there is increasing evidence that some of the shoulder-fired missiles that the c.i.a. was trying to track down in libya, and f-16's...
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they publicly denied that assad would use weapons on his own people. raising the question with his departure has the assad policy changed? bret? >> connor powell in the middle east newsroom. thanks. more on this with the panel. now a standoff of a different type. back at home. the fiscal kind. house republicans leaders calling this a bold counteroffer. that presents a fair, middle ground. the white house is saying it has nothing new with no details. it is a republican compromise solution to the impending fiscal cliff. spending cut and tax increases that both sides mean would mean recession. after what both sides called a frustrating weekend. today's development don't appear to break a log jam. not yet. ed henry begins our coverage. >> reporter: good evening. they are saying the plan is ridiculous, so much so they will not offer counterproposal to the g.o.p. counterproposal and say tonight unless speaker boehner gives in on raising taxes on the rich, the president is ready to go off the cliff. >> right now i'd say we are nowhere, period. nowhere. >> joh
they publicly denied that assad would use weapons on his own people. raising the question with his departure has the assad policy changed? bret? >> connor powell in the middle east newsroom. thanks. more on this with the panel. now a standoff of a different type. back at home. the fiscal kind. house republicans leaders calling this a bold counteroffer. that presents a fair, middle ground. the white house is saying it has nothing new with no details. it is a republican compromise solution...
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. >> i want to make it clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. >> reporter: obama administration and military officials say they believe president assad has gotten the message. >> we have sent an unmistakable message that this would cross a red line. and those responsible would be held to account. >> reporter: the syrian regime, which has been massacring citizens for nearly two-straight years, has been careful not to confirm it has the weapons. >> even if we have them, we shall not use them against our people. >> reporter: but president assad's father used chemical weapons. and officials believe pressure on the current government is mounting. opposition is making tactical gains that could trigger a shift in the conflict. the state department believes the conflict is growing closer to assad and is looking into reports that assad's men are looking for a place to go into exile. >> tahman bradley, live in washington. thanks, tahman. >>> we also have breaking news this morning from egyp
. >> i want to make it clear to assad and those under his command, the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. >> reporter: obama administration and military officials say they believe president assad has gotten the message. >> we have sent an unmistakable message that this would cross a red line. and those responsible would be held to account. >> reporter: the syrian regime, which has been massacring citizens for nearly...
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suppose assad would say i realize i am the problem, me personally. and i am also a patriot. not withstanding that i have done these awful things in my name on syrians have died and a country is destroyed. i'm going to allow a government here to negotiate and i'm leaving. he's unlikely to say that, if he says that. if he said that we will be in business completely. >> meetly so, why isn't the effort to say the russians get assad out pov we are. i think what they are saying. >> that is a nonstarter, isn't it. >> it is shall did -- it is not our business to replace governments. >> that is fair. and that is from my point of view. >> they have their own reason to ynt want to say that. >> even, from my point of view it is good. we don't want people going and changing governments and so on. but what i tell everybody who talk os to bash har is it is your duty to share with him your analysis. if you agree with me that change is indispensable you've got to tell him and this is not interverns this is what i tell him. when i talk to him, extremely politably, set president of a country t
suppose assad would say i realize i am the problem, me personally. and i am also a patriot. not withstanding that i have done these awful things in my name on syrians have died and a country is destroyed. i'm going to allow a government here to negotiate and i'm leaving. he's unlikely to say that, if he says that. if he said that we will be in business completely. >> meetly so, why isn't the effort to say the russians get assad out pov we are. i think what they are saying. >> that...
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and does this mean the end is near for bashar al assad? >> i don't think anybody can say the end is near for bashar al assad. he's got a lot of tanks, a lot of aircraft, a lot of firepower. what we're seeing from the united states is more of a concern that events are moving very swiftly on the ground. the u.s. wants to be able, at the end of all of this to have some influence, some input into what comes next there. not having supplied any arms up to this point, they don't have much influence. they're beginning to wonder, do we need to have more and how do we get it? they're still very concerned who are the rebels, who do they represent, are these al qaeda forces, we don't want our arms falling into the wrong hands. that's a paramount concern for washington. >> this guy's the best. thank you, jim clancy. appreciate it, shirt. >>> shocking numbers to tell you about, 25,000 people missing in mexico. up next, details on how these missing person cases are being linked to the drug cartels there. make a wish! i wish we could lie here forever. i w
and does this mean the end is near for bashar al assad? >> i don't think anybody can say the end is near for bashar al assad. he's got a lot of tanks, a lot of aircraft, a lot of firepower. what we're seeing from the united states is more of a concern that events are moving very swiftly on the ground. the u.s. wants to be able, at the end of all of this to have some influence, some input into what comes next there. not having supplied any arms up to this point, they don't have much...
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i don't see that the assad regime. will likely use the chemical weapons against his people and how however when it comes to the jihadists attacking him. in the last moments you never know what can happen again you have this but it's important to mention a vital issue here there's you have this are even more dangerous if we got these chemical weapons in their head so if you are told that the assad regime may use this chemical weapons of possibility that the jihadist will use it again of their opponents will be much much more that you have this have no problem to be had people alive you deal with people like bin ladin and there are because of al qaida who have no hesitation to use any form of whip around to really control any place. religious believes and ideology. there's a very tasty pine baking away in asia but still a nice way to confound staff life and later in the program the energy hungry powerhouses india and china are struggling to share our resources with the drones already circling the lucrative. the stunning
i don't see that the assad regime. will likely use the chemical weapons against his people and how however when it comes to the jihadists attacking him. in the last moments you never know what can happen again you have this but it's important to mention a vital issue here there's you have this are even more dangerous if we got these chemical weapons in their head so if you are told that the assad regime may use this chemical weapons of possibility that the jihadist will use it again of their...
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utterly stupid for assad to attack turkey in that way so why are we doing these things that look like they aren't connected to reality unless reality is we're preparing the ground to intervene in syria and what would be the implications if the u.s. were to intervene in syria at some saying the fallout would be far more dramatic than what we saw in iraq would you agree with that. i think that if we were to intervene in a substantial way that is to say we were to put troops on the ground marines soldiers and so forth and we were to do in syria what we began to do in march of two thousand and three in iraq those people are absolutely right in fact i think it would be even worse than iraq i think also that it would be again a back door as a war into iran which is the as you well know the real threat that we've been putting out there for years now and i think we're looking at syria and iran being a combination that we would then take on and you're talking about in my view a conflict that becomes regional and maybe even wider because we've got russia we've got china we've got other players
utterly stupid for assad to attack turkey in that way so why are we doing these things that look like they aren't connected to reality unless reality is we're preparing the ground to intervene in syria and what would be the implications if the u.s. were to intervene in syria at some saying the fallout would be far more dramatic than what we saw in iraq would you agree with that. i think that if we were to intervene in a substantial way that is to say we were to put troops on the ground marines...
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united lost a rebel drawing president assad in dismissing washington's chemical weapons he is there's the media again while u.s. invasion fleet poised on syria's borders. around one step forward one step by just as the american senate's launches a cold war era long live it break it up or is it these are by no seven russian officials provoking a promise of a similar move. this is all she coming to live from moscow hello and welcome to the program along anticipated state address by egypt's president morsi has failed to silence the angry voices on the streets of cairo protesters claim his still ignores their key demands by evolving to push on with a referendum on an islamist led constitution more on that from cairo based reporter true now. president mohamed morsi basically stuck by his decisions he said in his speech he said this consulate curation which was very contentious very people described it as a power grab was essential basically in the transition period to democracy and very important protecting the constituent assembly which drafted the constitution to the we get to this point
united lost a rebel drawing president assad in dismissing washington's chemical weapons he is there's the media again while u.s. invasion fleet poised on syria's borders. around one step forward one step by just as the american senate's launches a cold war era long live it break it up or is it these are by no seven russian officials provoking a promise of a similar move. this is all she coming to live from moscow hello and welcome to the program along anticipated state address by egypt's...
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carefully it is more in tandem with the assad regime so that's a tension in itself and and given the fact that the second group was not invited to the newly built established syrian national coalition ok that that will prove tension in the future so i think you know they may be after some sort of autonomy or federalism but there is no there is no consensus within the syrian opposition groups actually they are they are against it as far as i understand at the moment so so we are looking for some sort of our tense situation as in maybe as in iraq between syrian kurds and syrian arab ok edward if i could go back to you it looks like the turks have really shot herself in the foot here i mean because kurds are part of the opposition in syria as well. it peter you ask a very interesting question and because that's really the party here with the most to lose you spoke about the kurds winning so we should keep in mind the party here we have. turkey. right to highlight this. turkey obviously looks at the kurdish problem with a great deal of anxiety and one could even ask oneself why ankara wo
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could assad hang on for a few more months? >> it's very hard to say having said multiple insurgencies usually on the receiving end from vietnam to the middle east. it's hard to say--its easier to say when you have momentum. right now the resistence has momentum. how soon can that lead to the fall of sigh began saigon and that kind of thing. we're heading that way. the danger to avoid that, not only assad, but his adviser from the iranian force i've been on the receiving end of his actions in iraq, he's willing and capable of doing anything to preserve that regime. >> one last thing, even after the regime falls chemical weapons are not over. what you're afraid of is some of these extremist forces getting their hand on them, that will be a very difficult challenge for the united states. >> eliot: what leverage would we have after assumeing that assad falls, not only hope but we predict in the future, will we have the ability to deal with the insurgent forces. james jeffrey and joe cirincione thank you for joining me tonight. >>
could assad hang on for a few more months? >> it's very hard to say having said multiple insurgencies usually on the receiving end from vietnam to the middle east. it's hard to say--its easier to say when you have momentum. right now the resistence has momentum. how soon can that lead to the fall of sigh began saigon and that kind of thing. we're heading that way. the danger to avoid that, not only assad, but his adviser from the iranian force i've been on the receiving end of his actions...
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you've actually met president assad. tell me your impression. >> on our way to iraq we had to go -- we were asked to go and stop by to see assad. this was right after, maybe six months after president obama was elected. the whole purpose was to get assad who had the relationship with iran to work with iran to bring them into the tent so that we could work on the palestine israeli issue. we were working at that time with egypt and also with jordan. well, one of the first things he said, america i, your president said i'm the axis of evil. another sheriff. we had another conversation. he thought that was the case. his personality was such that he was low key. we talked for a long period of time. we had to say we had to go. i said to him look. you're in a position to do something in the world, to bring peace. your father is dead, your brother was killed however he was killed, and now you have that relationship. we then talked about helping his people, how this could help his people to bring peace to the area if we could bri
you've actually met president assad. tell me your impression. >> on our way to iraq we had to go -- we were asked to go and stop by to see assad. this was right after, maybe six months after president obama was elected. the whole purpose was to get assad who had the relationship with iran to work with iran to bring them into the tent so that we could work on the palestine israeli issue. we were working at that time with egypt and also with jordan. well, one of the first things he said,...
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and all it would take is the final order from syrian president assad. as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned very desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military has now loaded the pre cursor for bombs, that could be dropped from dozens of fighter bombers. this week, u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity here, near homes. today, while u.s. officials confirm the precursor chemicals are loaded, they must still be mixed together to create the deadly gas. the alarm shook the world, including president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton issued strong warnings to syria's president assad, there would be strong consequences if he used chemical weapons. >> they would lose any sort of backing they had with china and russia, in terms of blocking the vote. >> reporter: the chemical mix is devastating. iraq's saddam used it in 1988. u.s. officials stress tonight that as of now these weapons remain in the depots have not been loaded on to any planes, and that president as
and all it would take is the final order from syrian president assad. as the fighting grows more intense and syrian rebels close in on damascus, the syrian regime has turned very desperate. u.s. officials tell nbc news the syrian military has now loaded the pre cursor for bombs, that could be dropped from dozens of fighter bombers. this week, u.s. intelligence detected a flurry of activity here, near homes. today, while u.s. officials confirm the precursor chemicals are loaded, they must still...
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whether assad falls or assad contracts. one of the things they've done is build up the so-called paramilitaries, these isle of wight militias that used to be like games and now have become almost like storm troopers for the regime. with the help of hezbollah to turn into to much worse.bushed militia with the help of the cuts force as well. so they .., but then they looked to other possibilities. i syria began to fragment into various regions controlled by different militias, they have looked to alliances of convenience with groups such as the pkk, the courtesy and working party. they've used the pkk in order to pressure turkey against interference in syria. but this relationship opens the door for future collaboration whereby the ukrainians could create various islands of influence with a number of militias. so you have in the coastal region with a 70 predominate essentially a 70% for iranian and russian support. since i've started thinking about these things, there have been developments there, too because the rebels have
whether assad falls or assad contracts. one of the things they've done is build up the so-called paramilitaries, these isle of wight militias that used to be like games and now have become almost like storm troopers for the regime. with the help of hezbollah to turn into to much worse.bushed militia with the help of the cuts force as well. so they .., but then they looked to other possibilities. i syria began to fragment into various regions controlled by different militias, they have looked to...
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is the assad regime responsible for this? what's going on? >> reporter: well, the opposition members we're with are saying the government is the entity that shut down the internet even though we have not seen anything as widespread as this blackout we're hearing about right now. they say the government does this to prevent activists from communicating to one another, from getting information out, from uploading their videos but also to prevent the rebel fighting units from communicating to one another as well. i can tell you that where i am right now in northern syria, there is no power, no cell phone service and even the land lines are not functioning at this point. of course, it makes it incredibly difficult not just when it comes to communications but also the lack of power. it is winter, it is freezing cold right now and most people are unable to heat their homes. >> there are also reports as you know that assad's forces have been fiercely shelling aleppo. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: well, we were driving past outskirts
is the assad regime responsible for this? what's going on? >> reporter: well, the opposition members we're with are saying the government is the entity that shut down the internet even though we have not seen anything as widespread as this blackout we're hearing about right now. they say the government does this to prevent activists from communicating to one another, from getting information out, from uploading their videos but also to prevent the rebel fighting units from communicating...
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it is ugly now because of assad. it could get ugly after. >> rose: because we don't know what is coming exactly? >> see, this is the thing that i often would talk about and maybe, maybe it is another reason it was a good time to leave, is because i became over the years, i spent most of my career in cia trying to forecast what people would do, and how things would turn out and when it comes to saying what is going to happen, we have every reason to be very modest about our abilities to do that. because the truth is, we can monitor weapons, we can monitor movements of military forces, but the decision to use them or how to use them is something that often is a mystery to us. and sometimes because the protagonist himself doesn't know walt he is going to do. so i have -- i became very cautious and, again, it may have been one of the reasons i decided to leave, i became very cautious about the use of military force, because the consequences are so unpredictable. maybe it will be a small reaction, but maybe not. and then
it is ugly now because of assad. it could get ugly after. >> rose: because we don't know what is coming exactly? >> see, this is the thing that i often would talk about and maybe, maybe it is another reason it was a good time to leave, is because i became over the years, i spent most of my career in cia trying to forecast what people would do, and how things would turn out and when it comes to saying what is going to happen, we have every reason to be very modest about our abilities...
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what happens the day after assad leaves? he's going to go feet first was going to leave on his own, but he's going to go. after he goes, we need a plan to make sure there's a follow-on force. learn from republican mistakes in iraq. we didn't have enough troops. i told president bush renewed 180,000 troops to secure this place the person who said that was fired. he happened to be read. i'm here to say we don't have a follow-on force quickly to get involved after assad this will be all to pay in the region. if the president believes we need to use force to secure the chemical weapons were stop them from being utilized to kill thousands more, we stand with them and i'm willing to do resolution on the floor of the senate, seeking congressional authorization to protect us against assad using chemical weapons against his own people and protecting us that it was necessary to military force. final thought, you can see this coming for a very long time. leading from behind is not working. saying you could do in iraq with a light footp
what happens the day after assad leaves? he's going to go feet first was going to leave on his own, but he's going to go. after he goes, we need a plan to make sure there's a follow-on force. learn from republican mistakes in iraq. we didn't have enough troops. i told president bush renewed 180,000 troops to secure this place the person who said that was fired. he happened to be read. i'm here to say we don't have a follow-on force quickly to get involved after assad this will be all to pay in...
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and while the world focuses on assad's chemical arms somewhere bones are cooking up and testing. online for the story about the path of alleged rebels against iran that's refused to do the same to some supporters. there's a fresh diplomatic spat between russia and the u. us after the american senate approved a travel ban on seven russian officials accused of human wise violations so it's caused anger and promises overnight for an eye response from moscow as a. the diplomatic row was sparked by a provision a controversial provision in u.s. passed legislation that essentially normalizes trade relations between the two countries dubbed as the magnitsky act after moscow attorney who tragically died in two thousand and nine. thirty the legislation seeks to name and shame russian officials allegedly involved in corruption and effect effectively forbids them from traveling to and investing in the united states now this move was met with a furious response here in moscow with the russian foreign ministry saying publicly that it is nothing quote but a vindictive desire to counter russia i
and while the world focuses on assad's chemical arms somewhere bones are cooking up and testing. online for the story about the path of alleged rebels against iran that's refused to do the same to some supporters. there's a fresh diplomatic spat between russia and the u. us after the american senate approved a travel ban on seven russian officials accused of human wise violations so it's caused anger and promises overnight for an eye response from moscow as a. the diplomatic row was sparked by...
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supporting the rebels is one thing though but putting spikes in assad's wills is another america's been demanding iraq surge as syria's bomb planes for weapons going so far as to call an aide to ground all passing jets but to washington's dismay baghdad hasn't been all that enthusiastic his marine of a ny reports. as the syrian government struggles to stay in power fighting against rebels backed by the west america is also attempting to suffocate the alleged weapons flying into damascus washington accuses iran of being the key arms supplier to assad forces and to stop the transfer the us is now reportedly demanding that baghdad inspect planes flying from iran over its airspace into syria and their american government unfortunately. very strong rule in many other countries this is just one more example amazing thing is that the american government is saying that they can control flights over countries and force. forces. by doing so the u.s. has created something of a paradox forcing iraq to prevent iran from dealing with syria by bringing up this issue of so-called weapons applied to jus
supporting the rebels is one thing though but putting spikes in assad's wills is another america's been demanding iraq surge as syria's bomb planes for weapons going so far as to call an aide to ground all passing jets but to washington's dismay baghdad hasn't been all that enthusiastic his marine of a ny reports. as the syrian government struggles to stay in power fighting against rebels backed by the west america is also attempting to suffocate the alleged weapons flying into damascus...
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chief says there's no proof assad is preparing to use chemical weapons so why is the u.s. continually claiming it is. well this brings back memories from iraq nine years ago. and this regard i think the purpose of drumming up these allegations about syrians something or bundling the usage of of chemical weapons is either to justify a military and they're likely in syria or to justify arming the rebels with quantitatively but the weaponry especially. on the sides or things came to a political settlement to impose the presence of. one of those people who would be on the ground for all they come to the weapons stocks of syria which would be in the best of israel of course so whether things go in the direction of a direct military intervention or they go in the direction of stopping the shaman. supervision over the syrian military political supplement in both cases this media hype is meant to further the interests of us imperialism and zionism and the region but the u.s. is expected to recognize the syrian opposition is the sole legitimate voice solve the syrian people in the
chief says there's no proof assad is preparing to use chemical weapons so why is the u.s. continually claiming it is. well this brings back memories from iraq nine years ago. and this regard i think the purpose of drumming up these allegations about syrians something or bundling the usage of of chemical weapons is either to justify a military and they're likely in syria or to justify arming the rebels with quantitatively but the weaponry especially. on the sides or things came to a political...
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assad fighters using chemical weapons that's the view of middle east expert a tough economy. i don't see the the us or the regime style is the style that will likely use the chemical weapons against his people and how how over when it comes to the jihadists attacking him. in the last moments you never know what can happen again you have this what is important to mention a vital issue here that the jihadists are even more dangerous if we got these chemical weapons in their head so if you're told that the regime may use this chemical weapons of possibility that the jihadist will use it again with their opponents will be much much more the jihadists have no problem to behead people alive you deal with people like bin ladin and the radicals of al qaida who have no his e.t.a. shion to use any form of work pond to really like control any place. religious believes in ideology. and there's unverified evidence suggesting that anti arson forces may actually be seeking to launch a chemical attack and there are a minority dot com we have a video where an alleged rebel fighter uses a dave
assad fighters using chemical weapons that's the view of middle east expert a tough economy. i don't see the the us or the regime style is the style that will likely use the chemical weapons against his people and how how over when it comes to the jihadists attacking him. in the last moments you never know what can happen again you have this what is important to mention a vital issue here that the jihadists are even more dangerous if we got these chemical weapons in their head so if you're told...
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it's likely that at some point assad is going to fall. this particular group or some element of it will take over as the government of syria. we should want to have influence there given the importance of syria, and the importance of syria to iran. because if we can separate a new syrian government from the iranians that would be a major strategic advantage to the united states. >> eliot: michael, it certainly does seem that the trendline is not favorable to assad, that's good news. but is this another instance where we've been leading from have been perhaps one step too late and have not been forthright enough in supporting the opposition? >> you know, that may be, and i'm not surprised and i don't think we could have done much different here. syria is like iraq, you have a brutal dictator and a population in the middle of the middle east. you go in and try to own this country, so to speak you may wind up with an extended operation that at least partially resembles the two we've had over the last decade. i can understand the reluctant. i
it's likely that at some point assad is going to fall. this particular group or some element of it will take over as the government of syria. we should want to have influence there given the importance of syria, and the importance of syria to iran. because if we can separate a new syrian government from the iranians that would be a major strategic advantage to the united states. >> eliot: michael, it certainly does seem that the trendline is not favorable to assad, that's good news. but...
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bashar al-assad is a key link. efforts to support moderate forces opposing him within syria should be considered now and considered seriously. i have recently called for a more robust u.s. response to the crisis in syria. i believe that a political transition to a government that reflects the will of the syrian people is also in the core security interest of united states and the region. moreover, this change would align with our values of supporting the democratic process and the basic rights and freedom that should be enjoyed by all people, regardless of religion, ethnicity, or gender. over the course of the past 20 months, the aside regime has unleashed a barrage of unspeakable -- assad regime has unleashed a barrage of unspeakable terror across the country. more than 40,000 syrians have been killed, countless have been injured. refugees have surged into neighboring turkey, jordan, lebanon, and iraq, taxing the limits of those countries. assad's escalation of violence has reached a point where fighter jets have
bashar al-assad is a key link. efforts to support moderate forces opposing him within syria should be considered now and considered seriously. i have recently called for a more robust u.s. response to the crisis in syria. i believe that a political transition to a government that reflects the will of the syrian people is also in the core security interest of united states and the region. moreover, this change would align with our values of supporting the democratic process and the basic rights...
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we also don't know at what point would the assad regime resort to using sarin. it's my hypotheses that the alawites will use them if they're starting to get slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people who are at risk, i mean in areas where the assad regime could or might use them or another group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something to do to protect yourself? >> they presumably don't have access to the medication. you have to get out of the area but keep in mind this -- because it's odorless and tasteless and very hard to detect, you have to get out of that area. and also because you can get poisoned again by ingestion and inhaling or simply touching it, it can be on the clothes, the clothes could be a vehicle. so you get out of the way. you take off your clothes or anything that may have been exposed to it, soap and water, rinse your body as much as possible. one thing is it's a heavier gas compared to what else is in that area, and lingers closer to the ground and getting to higher elevation can help. it sounds
we also don't know at what point would the assad regime resort to using sarin. it's my hypotheses that the alawites will use them if they're starting to get slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people who are at risk, i mean in areas where the assad regime could or might use them or another group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something to do to protect yourself? >> they presumably don't have access to the medication. you have to get out...
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assad has to go. syrians have the right to choose their government, the president, and any individual to run the world. as these ideologies are conflicting right now, that is normal. we see that in egypt. each side tries to extend its power through institutions, through the constitution. i think this is a healthy discussion, especially after 40 years of dictatorship. the people are not used to sharing their opinions and hearing other opinions. they need some time to be able to reconcile all of the different ideologies. at the end, i believe in the syrian people that they will be able to end the assad regime. >> thank you. i would like to debate on the ideologies and the syrian opposition. i will let you go into this issue. can you talking about the role played by the syrian muslim brotherhood within the opposition. the majority of the seats still being that of the muslim brotherhood. the leaders are close -- what is the role played by them? >> i think the united states has to deal with the reality wit
assad has to go. syrians have the right to choose their government, the president, and any individual to run the world. as these ideologies are conflicting right now, that is normal. we see that in egypt. each side tries to extend its power through institutions, through the constitution. i think this is a healthy discussion, especially after 40 years of dictatorship. the people are not used to sharing their opinions and hearing other opinions. they need some time to be able to reconcile all of...
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assad in terms of political maneuvering. so clinton met with the foreign minister of russia, and that's our greatest hope right now. is russia can do something. russia is softening the position on regime change in syria, because i think that they see the syrian regime, this might be an indication we're entering the end game. their job is to ensure that assad doesn't go from even though he's killed 40,000 people, he has been a fairly rational and self-preserving actor here. bombing them with sarin gas means he tipped over into utterly irrational and the whole world has a big problem on his hands. >> this brings up the question of should more have been done earlier, and what were the options? >> it's easy for senator mccain when you're not in power saying we should do all things. the thing we should remember is regime change, libya, egypt, iraq, it very rarely goes well. >> the consequences of regime change, even when it's supported. >> right. in syria there are so many more competing factions for power, that i think a regime
assad in terms of political maneuvering. so clinton met with the foreign minister of russia, and that's our greatest hope right now. is russia can do something. russia is softening the position on regime change in syria, because i think that they see the syrian regime, this might be an indication we're entering the end game. their job is to ensure that assad doesn't go from even though he's killed 40,000 people, he has been a fairly rational and self-preserving actor here. bombing them with...
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military is making contingency plans should the syrian president bashar assad suddenly leave with the u.s. sources saying that they are aware that assad has received numerous asylum offers at the same time the united states has reportedly deployed the u.s. eisenhower start strike group which went through the suez canal from the persian gulf over the weekend and we understand according to reports that it is making its way to the syrian coast and it has been throughout this week now on board on eight fighter bomber squadrons of the seven at the same time there are eight thousand sailors airmen and marines and joins the u.s. i were german and really group which are really carries some two and a half thousand marines now what this does indicate this latest development is that the united states now stands ready for direct military intervention in the syrian conflict that is what we're hearing from various sources and various commentators who have been following the story. closely what it also indicates is that increasingly we are hearing from all quarters on the global community the idea t
military is making contingency plans should the syrian president bashar assad suddenly leave with the u.s. sources saying that they are aware that assad has received numerous asylum offers at the same time the united states has reportedly deployed the u.s. eisenhower start strike group which went through the suez canal from the persian gulf over the weekend and we understand according to reports that it is making its way to the syrian coast and it has been throughout this week now on board on...